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Mighty's avatar

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America [regardless of my personal feelings toward Americans who hold different political views] and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God [He’s big enough for all of us regardless of personal religion], indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

OUR flag, our nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. I will not allow a president or anyone else to turn me against my fellow Americans for his own misguided personal gain.

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cindy ramirez's avatar

i just bought a shirt that says, "I didn't grow up saying 'With Liberty & Justice for all' to settle for anything less".

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Mighty's avatar

Wear it with resolve. That’s a great message, Cindy. Everyone who sees it will have a moment of reflection one way or the other.

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Hank Napkin's avatar

"Unter Gott" was a late anti-communist addition made in 1954. It needs to be dropped like the burnt hot potato stuffed with chives, cheddar, and bacon bits -- all months beyond their sell-by date -- that it is. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0931908/

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Mighty's avatar

I remember when the phrase was added. I was in the third grade and we practiced the new version on the school patio. I’m fine with it but can also understand that others may not be.

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Hank Napkin's avatar

I just remember asking "why under?"

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Mighty's avatar

I don’t know what the actual intent was but as a child I took it as meaning there was a force higher than humans, a civilizing influence perhaps. But we’ve turned religion or “faith” into a weapon, too. Maybe what we need is kindness with a spine, an attitude of goodwill toward others but with firm and fair boundaries. Just talking off the top of my head here. I do know that we have so much unsuppressed anger right now that we can barely have a conversation with those who hold alternate opinions.

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Hank Napkin's avatar

Every good or bad thing developed by humans becomes a weapon against humans. As for anger, I’m more amused. This little stretch of time is Peak Humour Noir. To wit: A failed, lying, rapist, racist, uneducated, diseased, obese, dementia’d, clueless, narcissistic, narcoleptic, syphilitic, game-show-host-nepo-baby rises to the highest elected office after already and massively failing at the job, and does so at the perfect intersection of environmental collapse / economic collapse / war / pandemic / religious fervor / advanced weaponry / rights violations / bigotry / armed militias / and cruelty-as-heroism, ignorance-as -wisdom.

Say what you will, this is what our culture has chosen to cultivate and what humans have finally become. But, no worries! It won’t last. Just another massive waste of time, lives, and resources. It's what we do ; ) !!

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Greeley Miklashek, MD's avatar

An adult with the psychological maturity of a 2 yo lacks boundaries in his/her thinking/actions. Sound familiar? There has never been a precedent this mentally deficient or dangerous to our nation before Our Mad King (wannabe) Donald the 1st. NO KINGS!

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Hal Brown's avatar

I'd only change what you wrote to Trump is a Mad King Abou-to-tbe. He is almost there.

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Hal Brown's avatar

Pushup Pistol Pete poopoohed Espers book which described how Trump wants troops to shoot protesters, saying nobody should believe everything just because it's in a book, except of course the Bible. That's rich. He thinks the Bible is an instruction manual and reads it selective. If he was using it to put together an Ikea desk it wouldn't stand upright. Nobody founded a religion based on Aesop's Fables although they could have.

Perhaps we should remind Pure Grain Pete that the second biggest selling book after the Bible is the Tao Te Ching, so perhaps in all fairness we should believe everything it says too. In fact, that might make more sense and lead him to being a more decent person. From Wikipedia: "The Tao Te Ching describes the Tao as the source and ideal of all existence: it is unseen, but not transcendent, immensely powerful yet supremely humble, being the root of all things. People have desires and free will (and thus are able to alter their own nature). Many act 'unnaturally', upsetting the natural balance of the Tao. The Tao Te Ching intends to lead students to a "return" to their natural state, in harmony with Tao. Language and conventional wisdom are critically assessed. Taoism views them as inherently biased and artificial, widely using paradoxes to sharpen the point."

As for the posse comitatus act, for Trump this is like a fly on his cheeseburger. He'd brush it off, order a new one, and have the cook executed. I expect martial law to be declared any time soon, and the first American to be shot within the month.

We have well and truly entered the box of Trump's Hitlerian regime and all that remains is for a bow to be tied on the package.

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Gordon Shumway's avatar

"Pure Grain Pete" - love it!

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Hal Brown's avatar

Thanks, Gordon. (I'm not even a drinker so it to me awhile to come up with this. I looked it up on Wiki: Pure grain alcohol at 190 proof (95% alcohol by volume) is a highly concentrated form of ethanol, often used for making homemade liqueurs, infusions, or as a cleaning agent. It is important to dilute it before consumption, as it is very potent and can be dangerous if consumed undiluted.

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Hal Brown's avatar

I just thought of another one: one hundred proof Pete.

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Chris Perez's avatar

What I find problematic about Trump's wish to kill American citizens is that the Republican Congress blindly supports his agenda out of fear of political retribution. They have the Twenty-Fifth Amendment to remove him if he's mentally unfit or impeach him for violating the law. They have the power to stop the violence and allow the military to maintain their oath to the Constitution and not be forced to be a tool to advance tyranny. Sabrina points out that this is a critical time in our history, and ALL citizens should be concerned. The NO KINGS and the upcoming July 17th demonstrations centered on Voting Rights are of greater importance as citizens unite to do the work Congress is afraid to do. The work is hard enough without having to face the military. But the people have the momentum to overcome any obstacle peacefully and save our freedom. The line that divides us can be erased if we stop to think what tyranny means for ALL OF US.

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John Smiley Garrett's avatar

You're in error, sir. Congress does NOT have the power to remove Mr. Trump using the 25th Amendment.

They can impeach him. But the only ones who can remove him using the 25th Amendment is the Vice President and the Cabinet.

And we're more likely to go to the Moon by standing in the backyard and flapping our arms vigorously than having the Cabinet decide to remove Mr. Trump.

Same with Congress impeaching him.

Wishful thinking.

Start working now for REAL CHANGE in the 2026 mid-terms...we MIGHT get a Congress who will bow to the people's wishes..

Or, even worse, there's a possibility that a REAL majority of the population DOES support what Mr. Trump is doing.

Sort of like James Michener wrote in "Kent State: What Happened And Why."

He wrote, "What the students chanting 'the whole world's watching' didn't realize was that not only was the whole world watching, but the majority of those watching APPROVED of what they were seeing."

I absolutely abhor Mr. Trump and what he's doing...but I also think that wishful thinking won't do anything...it will take ACTION at the polls to effect real change.

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Chris Perez's avatar

You are right, JD Vance and the cabinet members who witness Trump's day-to-day mental deterioration are the ones to initiate Twenty-Fifth Amendment action. And as you point out, that will not happen because they fully agree with Trump's course of action. So, in this instance, it will take an act of Congress to influence the action necessary to prevent the tragic consequences of using the military on American citizens. My point is, there are legal options to ensure peaceful demonstrators don't become fish in a barrel for the military to pick off at Trump's direction. Trump has supporters who APPROVE the use of the army on civilians. But military personnel are not negotiators, social workers, or political pundits; they are trained to kill. That is why the use of the army in civil acts of defiance is not encouraged. And if these supporters have an iota of humanity, they will be traumatized when the body count begins. The Resistance is a prelude to voter registration drives to CHANGE the Congress in the 2026 mid-terms. The movement is to organize the people and vote, not be helpless targets.

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John Smiley Garrett's avatar

I totally agree. I believe in the Posse Comitatus Act.

And I agree that we need to organize and vote.

That will take WORK, though, and a lot of Armchair Justice Warriors won't do a thing, unless they get up, go out, and start recruiting or knocking on doors.

Even if Congress SHOULD act now, it would take an overwhelming majority in Congress to override the inevitable Presidential veto of any law they might try to pass right now.

The other issue is finding candidates WILLING to go to Congress and go toe to toe with the meat grinder that is modern politics. They HAVE to know that they will be held up and ridiculed, and any minor transgression in the past will be blown up far out of proportion.

The worst part about that? I'm willing to lay odds that NONE of the possible transgressions that might be laid at the feet of a potential candidate will be half as heinous as offenses that Mr. Trump has committed.

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Chris Perez's avatar

We can enumerate all of Trump's ugly deeds as reasons to oppose him, but the worst thing he has done is create the division that is tearing up the country. The meat grinder in politics, you speak of, will turn away qualified and dedicated people from running for office. The likes of John Lewis, Liz Cheney, John McCain, and Jimmy Carter we may not see again. The nastiness in modern politics is what fuels voter apathy who believe neither political party is worth a damn. It is TOUGH WORK to move people to take responsibility as citizens and safeguard our freedom. These demonstrations are the first step to organizing the people, and perhaps out of the masses, leaders may rise and run. We cannot lose hope because the alternative will be tyranny. Armchair Justice Warriors serve a purpose by writing words of encouragement. I'm one of them, no longer able to move about as Father Time has physically slowed me, but my words will be my contribution. Words are encouraging, and silence is the white flag of defeat.

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Eric Chaffee's avatar

The dogs of war are yapping mindlessly, having ignored/forgotten lessons of the past — calling for blood in the middle east, and at home. The drama queen in the whitehouse wants all eyeballs on him. So, where are the Joint Chiefs of Staff? What are they saying/thinking? Seven of the eight were nominated by Biden. The current chair was appointed by Trump recently (abetted by SecDef Hegseth) after removal of the previous Chair, General CQ Brown, an African-American; and removal of another “DEI” member of the joint chiefs: Admiral Lisa Franchetti, Chief of Naval Operations.

This bloody showdown should not be decided by three geriatric lunatics! I’m disappointed that we’ve not had a national/financial strike by now, calling for those who are awake to sit on their wallets, staying home from work, where practical. —

Meanwhile: A very insightful argument is excerpted below.

June 18, 2025, 2:39 PM CST

By Joseph Cirincione, vice-chair of the Center for International Policy Board of Directors

Former Defense Secretary Robert Gates warned in 2012 that an attack on Iran “would make a nuclear-armed Iran inevitable. They would just bury the program deeper and make it more covert.” Yes, we could damage the nuclear facilities, but what happens then? “The results of an American or Israeli military strike on Iran could, in my view, prove catastrophic, haunting us for generations in that part of the world,” he added.

Gates, the defense secretary under both Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, was not alone. There is a reason that the United States has not gone to war with Iran before. The overwhelming consensus of military and intelligence officials and experts has been that doing so would be a disaster. [MORE]

SOURCE: https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/iran-israel-us-nuclear-war-risks-rcna213653

~eric. MeridaGOround.com

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Gordon Shumway's avatar

Thanks, again, Sabrina. Trump is right about one thing: "We have some very bad people. We have some sick people " - it's just that they're in power at the moment. Increasing the already bloated, wasteful "defense" budget suggests only one thing - and that should scare the hell out of all of us! :>(

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Paulette Brown's avatar

Did he tell them this time to shoot the protestors. I hear in the leg. So why the neck, eye, groin, and forehead if they were supposed to shoot at the feet. This republican government is cruel and dangerous. Why would you have them shoot American people following the constitution Shame on you all

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Scott K.'s avatar

Add it all up, and we’re already there: attacking and detaining a US Senator in his home state; arresting Democratic leaders in their city; arresting judges; deploying the military without valid justification on the citizenry; masked and unidentified polICE agents rounding up and arresting people in “Democrat-run” cities and states. The list goes on. Protesting around the country won’t do it. Many of those millions from “No Kings” will have to travel to D.C. and surround the Very White House and other institutions until Trump is forced to leave in disgrace. So. Korea, Belarus, Georgia have shown how it’s done.

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George Stockman's avatar

I've read reports this morning that the No Kings protests involved only two percent of the population. If that's true it's saddening to hear it described as the largest protest in American history.

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Ellen Franzen's avatar

I believe it. I remember the Vietnam demonstrations of 1969 and 1970. They were a lot bigger. I need to tell you, the USA has lost its leading position as the wealthiest and strongest nation in the world. It's been replaced by China. We're a shell of what we were on January 19. Fortunately, California is still the fourth largest economy in the world.

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Jon Notabot's avatar

It's a shame, it's a sham - no, it's magaman!

I've never been more embarrassed to be an American human being in my entire life. Here's some truth: I have a difficult time being in public these days. I find it hard to look people in the eye. I find it nearly impossible to engage in the "everything's normal nothing to see here" banter so many demand to keep front and center. I also find it comical, which is just a different way of shedding tears.

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Dianna McCullough's avatar

Shooting protesters - Americans! What does it say that Trump would even consider that? Placing National Guard and even Marines where they are not needed, not requested by a Governor, not even known by the Governor as in CA as Trump didn’t ask - what does this say? Clarifying that he wants these guards and military in Democratic states - what does this say - what does all this say? And what is happening when we see, Democrats specifically, being thrown to the floor, arrested and murdered…and Republicans are laughing, along with their lies. If this isn’t treasonous (like Jan 6) you’ve fooled me. “No Kings” and braver politicians needed.

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Hank Napkin's avatar

Sir declares war on 2/3 of the country, minimum!

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Roald Hoppel's avatar

Republicans seek to liberate areas from Democrats the same way Russians seek to liberate Ukraine.

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Tommy Naughton's avatar

Three things matter where I’m from: Sports, Politics, and REVENGE. Revenge is number one. Especially to DRT and his praetorian guard. These dudes are rowing at Ramming Speed. And hopefully we will land on the same raft as the commander of the attack. This is not an attempt at witty repartee. This is an existential moment in history. We are already under martial law. Excellent camouflage: all three arms of governance are at the beck and call of a Republican Party that gives lip service to the Constitution: Executive orders, court cases, routed to the 6-3 Conservative justices on the Supreme Court, and the nearly science fiction notion the National Guard is federalized to PROTECT ICE. To paraphrase, “There is no joy in Mudville,” Mighty Democracy has struck out. TN

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Jacobs-Meadway Roberta's avatar

When they tell you and then they show you what they are, believe them. If Collins and Murkowski could muster more than a little concern, and went the Angus King route, it would be a step in the correct direction. Anyone know how we find some spines to donate to the GOP in DC who actually know better?

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Kent Cooper's avatar

All this focus on Iran is smoke and mirrors as Trump and minions try to distract us from his most audacious intent to gut our economy with his big ugly bill. Here in Kentucky it is estimated that 35 rural hospitals will be forced to close, the most of any state. Trump won the rural areas of Kentucky more than any other area.

I’m personally aware that the hospital in Morehead collects 40-50% of their income from Medicaid clients. The devastation to local economies will be vast. On average hospital employees average $10,000 more annually than other workers in rural Kentucky. Imagine what the loss of jobs will do to those communities.

Don’t be fooled, President Coward will not attack Iran. Remember when he said Tic Tok was a spy network for China? He knows many Americans rely on that for both business and entertainment. He has delayed the requirement that they be sold for the third time now. He is a master at deception. The Big Ugly Bill is what he wants. It will take decades to undue the damage.

I’d prefer WWW III

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