I have only question I have about whether or not we are a police state. Is it a nascent police state that that may or may not become a full-blown Putin or Hitler police state? I see incidents like the one with the Columbia student as Trump testing the waters to see what he can get away with. This was clearly personal with him. He knew of the case and like a Mafia boss issued the order. Others, like Homan's ICE thugs unnecessarily using flash bang grenade to terrorize in the arrest of an immigrant family may have been just the psychoathology ot the ICE Gestapo.
I see all the other noise about what Trump and Co. are doing to upend democracy as effort to create chaos and stick the short fingered barbarian's thumb in the eye of everyone he considers his enemy. Even his ridiculus promotion of Tesla with cars on the White House lawn shows he is just puking out his poison at everyone he can think of from Ukraine and his embrace of Putin, to making Canada and Mexico in enemies.
Once he has established a true police state it won't matter how many of the mildly-MAGA decide he's gone to far. The enforcers have a lot of guns. They have the power to use them. The only part of the Federal government that has more is the military. The state governments have guns too with their police and National Guards. In addition 46% of American households own at least one firearm according to a study by the University of Chicago How Many Americans Own Guns? In a 2024 survey, 32% of Americans (107 million people) reported that they personally owned a firearm.
That's a lot of guns. There was a time not long ago when talk of a second civil war was the rhetoric of far right militia and anti-Trumper considering how bad it could be if Trump became the ruthless dictator they saw signs of him becoming. Now some realists like me are seeing as a possiblity and hoping that it is just a remote possibility.
I heard about this student who has done nothing wrong according to our constitution. Who do we write to or call? What is the way to help him now? Is there an organization that assists people in this condition? Where is he now?
he is in a notoriously dangerous ice facility in Louisiana. He has an attorney. The best way to help hum is to be as loud in public as you can. I listed several ways in my last paragraph.
Well, these are more like the Yezhovchina Purges under lovable Uncle Joe Stalin, which killed millions, wrecked the Soviet Army, and filled the Gulags.
The Night of the Long Knives will be next, when President Musk and the Bloated Yam purge their own ranks. That is actually happening with the closing of the Department of Education and the mass firings in federal agencies at the grunt level, but with Cabinet Ministers objecting to the Musk cuts, those guys will face the axe...and then the bullets.
Well well now, first of all those who voted for Trump are hailing this arrest as a good sign the king they elected is doing what they want. DO NOT FORGET the idea is to Make America White Again and if you speak with some of the older folk the one who's father fought against HITLER they have forgotten how it all started they have forgotten what they father did to protect innocent people , now while I am not in favour of supporting Hamas like those who believed they were supporting Palestine when in fact they were giving moral support to the terrorists people should have a right to speak their mind in a free country unless that country is no longer FREE
We all have a right to PEACEABLY protest. We do not have a right to block a university gate or classroom entrance, distribute Hamas terrorist pamphlets, and harrass students who are trying to go to class. We do not have a right to go to another country and deliberately cause trouble. Khakil needs to be deported. I disapprove of a great deal Trump is doing but in this case he is right.
Thank you. do you have a link for your source saying Khalil did those things? Because everything I’ve read said he did not and I would like to know the truth.
I agree that distributing terrorist materials is not covered by the first amendment, but of course, there’s a difference between opposing what’s happening to Palestinians in Gaza and supporting Hamas.
Whatever Khalil did as far as breaking a law he is entitled to due process. If, as has been reported, Trump gave the order to have him arrested and sent off to an immigration prison in Louisiana this is what happens in a dictatorship. We may believe supporting Hamas by demonstrating is reprehensible, but this is not illegal. Being a ringleader of a protest isn't illegal. Intimidating students and being in a illegal encampment sounds at worst like misdemeanors. Hamas is a murderous terrorist organization, but that is besides the point. In the US we have the First Amendment, the rule of law, and we are are not supposed to be a police state.
Read this earlier about Khalil and to me it’s another step toward dictatorship. University students have a right to have peaceful protest, Khalil’s was, and from what I understand the persons who arrested Khalil didn’t even have a warrant…was illegal that’s why. Haake is right on about reading or looking up our history. How many Americans are educated regarding Hitler? If they were knowledgeable perhaps they could identify what’s going on right under our nose…a Coup! We must stand up against these fascism tactics and those politicians who are gutless!
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thank you. If you have a credible link for what you are stating, I would be grateful to see it. From everything I’ve read, and the premise of this article, it was non-violent and, peaceful. if I’m wrong, I would like to retract or revise this column. I just haven’t found credible support for it yet, all i have seen is Trump’s press secretary, claiming there was more.
I will agree that under the first amendment, there’s a nuanced distinction between supporting an oppressed people in Gaza as the Netanyahu government bombs and starved them, and supporting Hamas. Hamas is even more brutal, was the aggressor and started this whole nightmare. But we need to do better if cries for mercy for the Palestinians is equated with antisemitism or, as Trump claims without evidence, is pro terrorism. In truth, I hope there is evidence to support what Trump is doing, so if you have any, please post. Thanks again.
I can't stand Trump, he's destroying our country and completely corrupt, but in this case, he is correct.
As a leader of CUAD (Columbia University Apartheid Divest), Khalil has backed calls for violence, revolution, and the destruction of Western civilization. He distributes Hamas flyers; they say from "Hamas Media Office". Hamas is a terrorist organization committed to killing Jews and eradicating Israel.
They are not starving. Israel has let in billions of dollars in aid, Hamas steals it. Have you not seen the markets? The media keeps saying there's no food, but I didn't see any starving Gazans during the hostage propaganda events when they returned men who look like they were from the Holocaust. The Jews, the hostages, were starving, not the Gazans. I see tons of live videos of the aid trucks driving in, no problem, with armed Gazans sitting on top of the trucks. Where do they go? Israel gives them electricity, and they then get bombed. Gazans hide bombs (and the hostages) among Gazan civilians, in mosques, hospitals, schools, and blame Israel for protecting itself. Hamas' billionaire heads live in Qatar, protected, and pays for Khalil's 19 lawyers. Their purpose is to kill Jews. Oct. 7 happened during a ceasefire.
I can't believe these protesters are saying h should be released because he has a green card and a pregnant wife. Why aren't they demanding the release of the American hostage (there may only be 1 left, Edan Alexander, from NJ) - because he's Jewish. Where were the protesters when Israeli moms and the 2 Bibas babies were taken and killed - because they're Jewish.
thank you. Hamas is horrific and should eradicated, agreed. but I was asking for a link as to what Khalil did personally. I understand flyers from "Hamas Media Office" were found, but is there any credible evidence that Khalil personally distributed or sanctioned or promoted them? when I go to women's marches, or Tesla protests, I see all kinds of signs and fliers advocating violence, which I don't support. but isn't it a leap to imprison an organizer for fliers some attendees distribute? not trying to dispute your points, just trying to reach the truth.
Barricading the campus buildings - private property, calling for armed violence against Jews - fellow stidents, promoting the Hamas tenets - violence against Jews -- that's what I read he was leading. I will look for sources. Women's marches and Tesla protests aren't calling for eradicating a country and all Jews.
I would have thought that if Khalil did more than express himself local laws be enforced and he be processed through the courts. Did he do anything illiga that NYC could have taken action? If not, why have the Feds get involved? From the surface, without knowing the nuts & bolts of his behavior as the cause for his detention, I believe it aside from DumDum's animosity towards Middle Eastern people, it was to intimidate all forms of protest, and New York City. The screws to peoples liberties are slowly being turned.
yes, that’s how I and, I believe, most critics see his arrest. I have to think that if there were something substantive, like he was harassing people, blocking access to classes, etc., trumps administration would’ve led with that. They’re stupid but they’re not that stupid, and they are fully aware that this violates the first amendment. I think it’s more likely Trump is deliberately trying to goad people into violent reactions so that he can declare martial law. To me it’s not a question of if, but when.
I have only question I have about whether or not we are a police state. Is it a nascent police state that that may or may not become a full-blown Putin or Hitler police state? I see incidents like the one with the Columbia student as Trump testing the waters to see what he can get away with. This was clearly personal with him. He knew of the case and like a Mafia boss issued the order. Others, like Homan's ICE thugs unnecessarily using flash bang grenade to terrorize in the arrest of an immigrant family may have been just the psychoathology ot the ICE Gestapo.
I see all the other noise about what Trump and Co. are doing to upend democracy as effort to create chaos and stick the short fingered barbarian's thumb in the eye of everyone he considers his enemy. Even his ridiculus promotion of Tesla with cars on the White House lawn shows he is just puking out his poison at everyone he can think of from Ukraine and his embrace of Putin, to making Canada and Mexico in enemies.
Once he has established a true police state it won't matter how many of the mildly-MAGA decide he's gone to far. The enforcers have a lot of guns. They have the power to use them. The only part of the Federal government that has more is the military. The state governments have guns too with their police and National Guards. In addition 46% of American households own at least one firearm according to a study by the University of Chicago How Many Americans Own Guns? In a 2024 survey, 32% of Americans (107 million people) reported that they personally owned a firearm.
That's a lot of guns. There was a time not long ago when talk of a second civil war was the rhetoric of far right militia and anti-Trumper considering how bad it could be if Trump became the ruthless dictator they saw signs of him becoming. Now some realists like me are seeing as a possiblity and hoping that it is just a remote possibility.
Here's my thoughts on America becoming a police state and the only way I see as it being stopped. https://halbrown.substack.com/p/are-we-becoming-a-police-state-look
I heard about this student who has done nothing wrong according to our constitution. Who do we write to or call? What is the way to help him now? Is there an organization that assists people in this condition? Where is he now?
he is in a notoriously dangerous ice facility in Louisiana. He has an attorney. The best way to help hum is to be as loud in public as you can. I listed several ways in my last paragraph.
Looking in from the Uk, we feel sorry for the decent American who are being subjected to Comrade Trump tyrant .
A long planned takeover of a democratic country by a would be dictator .
He will be eaten but the big boys he is trying to join .
You have my heartfelt wishes that one day you can put this fellon and his cronies where they belong "JAIL".
your lips to god’s ears. Trump just proves that evil is everywhere, it knows no exceptionalism.
Well, these are more like the Yezhovchina Purges under lovable Uncle Joe Stalin, which killed millions, wrecked the Soviet Army, and filled the Gulags.
The Night of the Long Knives will be next, when President Musk and the Bloated Yam purge their own ranks. That is actually happening with the closing of the Department of Education and the mass firings in federal agencies at the grunt level, but with Cabinet Ministers objecting to the Musk cuts, those guys will face the axe...and then the bullets.
Greatness has an unbearable stench.
stealing
Well well now, first of all those who voted for Trump are hailing this arrest as a good sign the king they elected is doing what they want. DO NOT FORGET the idea is to Make America White Again and if you speak with some of the older folk the one who's father fought against HITLER they have forgotten how it all started they have forgotten what they father did to protect innocent people , now while I am not in favour of supporting Hamas like those who believed they were supporting Palestine when in fact they were giving moral support to the terrorists people should have a right to speak their mind in a free country unless that country is no longer FREE
He can say whatever he wants. The physical touching, preventing the free movement of, in this case, Jewish students will get his dumb ass out, period!
We all have a right to PEACEABLY protest. We do not have a right to block a university gate or classroom entrance, distribute Hamas terrorist pamphlets, and harrass students who are trying to go to class. We do not have a right to go to another country and deliberately cause trouble. Khakil needs to be deported. I disapprove of a great deal Trump is doing but in this case he is right.
Thank you. do you have a link for your source saying Khalil did those things? Because everything I’ve read said he did not and I would like to know the truth.
I agree that distributing terrorist materials is not covered by the first amendment, but of course, there’s a difference between opposing what’s happening to Palestinians in Gaza and supporting Hamas.
It will all come out in court. Here's a link: https://www.mediaite.com/politics/white-house-spox-says-mahmoud-khalil-arrested-ahead-of-deportation-for-distributing-propaganda-fliers-with-the-logo-of-hamas/ CNN, FOX etc. all show Khalil as a ringleader of the disturbance and the intimidation of other students, with photos of him speaking at an illegal encampment on campus - and no, he was not telling the students to stop disrupting the university. I've marched in protests, but peaceably.
thank you again. I’ll check it out. And if I’m wrong, I will definitely own it!
that's Trump’s press secretary’s unsupported propaganda
Whatever Khalil did as far as breaking a law he is entitled to due process. If, as has been reported, Trump gave the order to have him arrested and sent off to an immigration prison in Louisiana this is what happens in a dictatorship. We may believe supporting Hamas by demonstrating is reprehensible, but this is not illegal. Being a ringleader of a protest isn't illegal. Intimidating students and being in a illegal encampment sounds at worst like misdemeanors. Hamas is a murderous terrorist organization, but that is besides the point. In the US we have the First Amendment, the rule of law, and we are are not supposed to be a police state.
Read this earlier about Khalil and to me it’s another step toward dictatorship. University students have a right to have peaceful protest, Khalil’s was, and from what I understand the persons who arrested Khalil didn’t even have a warrant…was illegal that’s why. Haake is right on about reading or looking up our history. How many Americans are educated regarding Hitler? If they were knowledgeable perhaps they could identify what’s going on right under our nose…a Coup! We must stand up against these fascism tactics and those politicians who are gutless!
Did you get my email? I want to send you something not mean for public.
i did not.
HaakeLawGroup@gmail.com
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Fuherprinzip.
Not sure how these were "peaceful and non-violent". They were definitely both - this goes past free speech.
thank you. If you have a credible link for what you are stating, I would be grateful to see it. From everything I’ve read, and the premise of this article, it was non-violent and, peaceful. if I’m wrong, I would like to retract or revise this column. I just haven’t found credible support for it yet, all i have seen is Trump’s press secretary, claiming there was more.
I will agree that under the first amendment, there’s a nuanced distinction between supporting an oppressed people in Gaza as the Netanyahu government bombs and starved them, and supporting Hamas. Hamas is even more brutal, was the aggressor and started this whole nightmare. But we need to do better if cries for mercy for the Palestinians is equated with antisemitism or, as Trump claims without evidence, is pro terrorism. In truth, I hope there is evidence to support what Trump is doing, so if you have any, please post. Thanks again.
I can't stand Trump, he's destroying our country and completely corrupt, but in this case, he is correct.
As a leader of CUAD (Columbia University Apartheid Divest), Khalil has backed calls for violence, revolution, and the destruction of Western civilization. He distributes Hamas flyers; they say from "Hamas Media Office". Hamas is a terrorist organization committed to killing Jews and eradicating Israel.
They are not starving. Israel has let in billions of dollars in aid, Hamas steals it. Have you not seen the markets? The media keeps saying there's no food, but I didn't see any starving Gazans during the hostage propaganda events when they returned men who look like they were from the Holocaust. The Jews, the hostages, were starving, not the Gazans. I see tons of live videos of the aid trucks driving in, no problem, with armed Gazans sitting on top of the trucks. Where do they go? Israel gives them electricity, and they then get bombed. Gazans hide bombs (and the hostages) among Gazan civilians, in mosques, hospitals, schools, and blame Israel for protecting itself. Hamas' billionaire heads live in Qatar, protected, and pays for Khalil's 19 lawyers. Their purpose is to kill Jews. Oct. 7 happened during a ceasefire.
I can't believe these protesters are saying h should be released because he has a green card and a pregnant wife. Why aren't they demanding the release of the American hostage (there may only be 1 left, Edan Alexander, from NJ) - because he's Jewish. Where were the protesters when Israeli moms and the 2 Bibas babies were taken and killed - because they're Jewish.
thank you. Hamas is horrific and should eradicated, agreed. but I was asking for a link as to what Khalil did personally. I understand flyers from "Hamas Media Office" were found, but is there any credible evidence that Khalil personally distributed or sanctioned or promoted them? when I go to women's marches, or Tesla protests, I see all kinds of signs and fliers advocating violence, which I don't support. but isn't it a leap to imprison an organizer for fliers some attendees distribute? not trying to dispute your points, just trying to reach the truth.
Barricading the campus buildings - private property, calling for armed violence against Jews - fellow stidents, promoting the Hamas tenets - violence against Jews -- that's what I read he was leading. I will look for sources. Women's marches and Tesla protests aren't calling for eradicating a country and all Jews.
I would have thought that if Khalil did more than express himself local laws be enforced and he be processed through the courts. Did he do anything illiga that NYC could have taken action? If not, why have the Feds get involved? From the surface, without knowing the nuts & bolts of his behavior as the cause for his detention, I believe it aside from DumDum's animosity towards Middle Eastern people, it was to intimidate all forms of protest, and New York City. The screws to peoples liberties are slowly being turned.
yes, that’s how I and, I believe, most critics see his arrest. I have to think that if there were something substantive, like he was harassing people, blocking access to classes, etc., trumps administration would’ve led with that. They’re stupid but they’re not that stupid, and they are fully aware that this violates the first amendment. I think it’s more likely Trump is deliberately trying to goad people into violent reactions so that he can declare martial law. To me it’s not a question of if, but when.